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Post by mike on Mar 5, 2007 19:10:02 GMT -5
Ok, I am now very confused.
The last time I read about why this episode was banned from everywhere outside of Japan, it was because of the use of guns used in "threatening" ways.
I watched this episode about two months ago when I first found this site and yes, I have to agree that the use of guns does occur on several occasions.
However, what gets me is that why does this episode have to be banned because of the use of guns when other famous programmes such as The Simpsons has violence in one way or another nearly every episode and they have continued making that since the early 1990s. I mean, The Simpsons is aimed at children and teenagers, just like Pokemon, yet none of their episodes have been banned from anywhere.
Another famous example of violence in cartoons is Tom and Jerry. This programme is aimed at children and every episode is plotted as Tom trying to get Jerry and eat him, only to fail and keep on getting trapped himself by various methods including the use of cannons and guns.
So, my question is why is this episode of Pokemon banned for the use of guns and nothing else, when there are tonnes more American shows that are also aimed at the same target audience which use much ore violence than can be found within this episode?
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Post by petey101 on Mar 5, 2007 20:34:49 GMT -5
First of all, you are incorrect in saying that The Simpsons is aimed at children; while obviously many children watch it, they clearly arent able to grasp most or all of the humor, because it's aimed at older teens and adults. It also airs during primetime, which means it has more leeway. Pokemon is a children's show that airs on a children's network during the morning that uses child-friendly humor (mostly puns). I'm assuming that many people were opposed to the idea of showing children a show filled with shotguns being aimed at children and threatening them. Tom and Jerry, unless I'm mistaken, never used guns, and the content is more slapstick and unrealistic than staring down the barrel of a shotgun. It's unlikely that a child would be able to reenact anything that occurs in such cartoons. However, if a kid happens upon a gun in the house, for whatever reason, and remembers seeing it on Pokemon, they might get ideas. Or at least, that's the reasoning behind banning it. Firearms on children's aren't too popular in America.
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Post by Sogeking on Mar 5, 2007 22:44:02 GMT -5
Well every pokemon episode that was banned was for a different reason. One I know gave kids seizures and another people said that a Jynx portrayed too much of a racial stereotype. There are a bunch of laws for television now involving guns and violence expecially for children shows
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Post by pichu1 on Mar 6, 2007 3:34:16 GMT -5
Ok, I am now very confused. The last time I read about why this episode was banned from everywhere outside of Japan, it was because of the use of guns used in "threatening" ways. I watched this episode about two months ago when I first found this site and yes, I have to agree that the use of guns does occur on several occasions. However, what gets me is that why does this episode have to be banned because of the use of guns when other famous programmes such as The Simpsons has violence in one way or another nearly every episode and they have continued making that since the early 1990s. I mean, The Simpsons is aimed at children and teenagers, just like Pokemon, yet none of their episodes have been banned from anywhere. Another famous example of violence in cartoons is Tom and Jerry. This programme is aimed at children and every episode is plotted as Tom trying to get Jerry and eat him, only to fail and keep on getting trapped himself by various methods including the use of cannons and guns. So, my question is why is this episode of Pokemon banned for the use of guns and nothing else, when there are tonnes more American shows that are also aimed at the same target audience which use much ore violence than can be found within this episode? #1 simpsons is at at 14+ or up and #2 many Tom and Jerry episdes were banned cuz of the violence ok the jynx one was a really stupied reason for get rid of it i aint racist or anythin but cmon give me a break so if its face is black n has big lips i am sure many kids will say OMG A BLACK POKEMON yadda yadda yadaa...the whole jynx for me was ridiculous
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Post by mike on Mar 6, 2007 18:19:57 GMT -5
^That's all [sarcasm]very interesting[/sarcasm] about Jynx, but this topic is about the Legend of Dratini episode.
It's also all well and good with everybody saying that The Simspons is aimed at teenagers, but do you exect that that means that no adolescents are watching it? I don't think so, and I know that there are millions of children watching it every day.
So then, as children actually do watch The Simpsons, lets look at some of the scenes it has involved: -Homer getting whacked over the head with a mallet by Maggie. -Homer joining a GUN club and using the GUN to do several things throughout the episode. -Chief Wiggum using a GUN o several occasions and using it to shoot at the TV/alarm to turn it off.
There you go, three examples of how any child (yes, it is also before the watershed) could get ideas of firing guns and using other innappropriate objects without actually watching and seeing/understanding the true messages of the episode- and yet none of these episodes have been banned.
So my main point in this particular post, anybody, not just children, could get ideas of using different weapons in many episodes of other programmes that they can easily watch.
So, the question again, why was this episode banned when you can find threatening behaviour with the use of weapons in many other cartoons and programmes, without all of these being banned?
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Post by petey101 on Mar 6, 2007 18:54:18 GMT -5
If you'd care to actually read my response, The Simpsons, though yes many children are undoubtedly watching it, is not directed at children, and it also airs during primetime, which means there are less restrictions on what they can do. Responsible parents won't let their children watch shows like The Simpsons, or if they do will talk about how what they're seeing isn't realistic and shouldn't be copied, etc. Pokemon is a show that parents generally feel is okay to let their kids watch without having to worry about such things, so airing an episode of Pokemon where there's a character firing bullets into the air and pointing shotguns at people's faces wouldn't have gone over well.
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Post by username on Mar 6, 2007 22:20:40 GMT -5
^That's all [sarcasm]very interesting[/sarcasm] about Jynx, but this topic is about the Legend of Dratini episode. It's also all well and good with everybody saying that The Simspons is aimed at teenagers, but do you exect that that means that no adolescents are watching it? I don't think so, and I know that there are millions of children watching it every day. So then, as children actually do watch The Simpsons, lets look at some of the scenes it has involved: -Homer getting whacked over the head with a mallet by Maggie. -Homer joining a GUN club and using the GUN to do several things throughout the episode. -Chief Wiggum using a GUN o several occasions and using it to shoot at the TV/alarm to turn it off. - Maggie shooting Mr. Burns with a GUN
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Post by Salamence on Mar 7, 2007 13:36:10 GMT -5
One episode was banned because James had cleavage LOL!
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Post by jorah on Mar 7, 2007 17:23:09 GMT -5
The Simpson's isn't aimed at children, its just that its a cartoon which makes you think it is. I'd say it was more aimed at teenagers/adults so it doesn't matter so much. Tom and Jerry had lots of violence in because they were made ages ago, before the time of political correctness and where you could sue someone because you eat at McDonalds everyday and it has made you overweight ok the jynx one was a really stupied reason for get rid of it i aint racist or anythin but cmon give me a break so if its face is black n has big lips i am sure many kids will say OMG A BLACK POKEMON yadda yadda yadaa...the whole jynx for me was ridiculous It wasn't just because Jynx was black, it was because it looked like something called blackface which I think was racist But yeah, I did think it was stupid to ban the episode. I had to watch it with English subs instead
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Post by 17blastoise17 on Jun 17, 2007 12:12:14 GMT -5
after the 9/11 attacks the episodes 'tower of terror' and 'tentacool and tentacruel' were banned, tower of terror because of its name and tentacruel and tentacool because of the giant tentacruel destroying buildings across the city
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Post by jorah on Jun 17, 2007 16:41:44 GMT -5
But it was on the Indigo League DVD box set which I imported from America...
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Post by 17blastoise17 on Jun 18, 2007 10:18:06 GMT -5
yehh i think its just that they banned them episodes from being showed on television
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